Have you ever chalked up gear discomfort to your body being the problem: the chafing, the shoulder pressure, the hip belt that just won't cinch down far enough?

It's not you. It's the gear.

Sarah Berkeley went through three backpacks on the Pacific Crest Trail before she decided to stop waiting for someone else to solve the problem! She founded Symbiosis Gear, an ultralight backpacking gear company built specifically for women's bodies and "people with boobs."

Sarah (trail name "Mellow!") has hiked the Vermont Long Trail, the Pacific Crest Trail, the Colorado Trail, and half of the Continental Divide Trail, and used those experiences to build packs that fit more bodies.

Listen to Sarah and Angie talk about:

• The heavy backpacking and camping gear Sarah started her outdoor adventures with
• Thru-hiking the Vermont Long Trail solo and running into gear problems
• Sarah’s journey to ultralight gear after meeting other hikers
• Tips for solo hiking after experiencing urban assault
• Going through three backpacks on the PCT and finally deciding to build her own
• Gear and safety: The moment she fell through a snow bridge in the Sierra and had to make a fast call
• Why the outdoor industry isn't designing for women
• How Symbiosis Gear fits differently: curved straps, adjustable sternum, and a waist belt that fits every body size
• Lessons from building a product-based business and what’s ahead

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Happy listening,

-The Cairn Project Team